Time in prison is just one of many possible consequences of failing to pay your child support. Recently I came across this on the U.S. Department of State website which states that if you are behind on “child support payments in excess of $2,500, you are ineligible to receive a U.S. passport. If this applies to you, Passport Services strongly recommends that you contact the appropriate State child support enforcement agency to make payment arrangements before applying for a passport.” While I was in a sporting good store recently I witnessed a man being turned down for a hunting license, thanks to a new State mandated computer system that all licensees must adhere to. He was denied the hunting license because he is behind on child support. So you can’t hunt, fish, or even leave the country. It’s also been brought to my attention that the government can withold child support payments from your tax refund! Feel free to leave comments or questions at the end of this article.
In research for this article I interviewed my Aunt, whom was a Child Support Enforcement Officer. Since 1985 she was an Employee of the State of Mississippi but her position is funded by a Federal Program which insures that parents receiving government aid are financially assisted by the state mandated wage garnishment, of the non custodial parent. These were time limited positions for child support enforcement.
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The majority of her time was spent in determining paternity. This is how it works. The mother gives a name, or five names (in some cases), and child support enforcement sets off to locate the potential fathers. Once an address is obtained for these men, a letter is sent instructing them to come to the appropriate location for a paternity test. Sometimes married men (or their wives), received these letters. Once in the office the potential father could accept paternal responsibilities. This was a rare occurrence. Normally the potential father would ‘deny’ that he is the father.
DNA Testing
DNA testing used to require the withdrawing of blood, but more recently ‘swabbing‘ has been used. The baby, mother, and potential are all swabbed to obtain a sample of their DNA. The DNA is then sent off to a laboratory and analyzed. The mothers DNA ‘markers’ are noted and then subtracted from the DNA of the baby. The remaining DNA should be a match with the real father.
Once Paternity is established, the father’s wages were assessed. There were guidelines for how much a father will pay. It’s based on a percentage of his income per child. If the father doesn’t have a job then the judge would set the child support based on a minimum wage job, at 40 hours per week.
Divorces
Mississippi passed a law in the 1990′s (which is often ignored) which states that all divorces involving children must have a child support withholding order. A form would then be filled out by a Child Support Enforcement Officer and mailed to the employer of the non custodial parent. This was a wage garnishment form designed to help the government insure that babies in Mississippi are being taken care of. Also, if the custodial parent is on some form of government assistance like Medicaid or Welfare, there is a state law which mandates the withholding order. This one is strictly enforced.
Licenses
Besides not being able to obtain a hunting or fishing license. You could also be denied a Drivers License when you stand in line for one of these. My Aunt relayed a story about a certain lawyer that would never pay his child support. The only way they could get him to pay was to threaten to remove his license to practice law. The Child Support Officer could use the same threats with a medical doctor. The ability to disrupt the lives of the non custodial parent seems to have no boundaries.
What if you leave the state?
Leaving the state won’t help you avoid paying child support. You may prolong it, but you can’t avoid it by skipping the state. Thanks to the Uniform Reciprocal Enforcement and Support Act, your arrest warrant for failure to pay child support follows you anywhere in the United States. For example, one of the arrest warrants my Aunt had issued resulted in a man being arrested in California. He was driving a tractor trailer loaded with produce. Although this was a routine traffic stop, once the man’s license was entered into the police computer, his warrant for failure to pay child support in Mississippi popped up. He was arrested and his employer’s produce sat in the hot California sun, spoiling before making it to market.
How you are tracked
The government tracks its citizens thanks to a few interconnected circumstances. This tracking is made possible by your Social Security Number, which is really how the government sees its citizens. Using your Social Security Number to obtain employment, results in a W-2 being issued to the I.R.S.. Large companies have to report this information every three months. Smaller companies may only report this information at the end of the year. Thanks to the Homeland Security Act, this process most likely alerts them as well. But the end result is that a Child Support Officer knows where you are, and if they’re aggressive, you’ll be arrested.
Time in jail
Time in jail is only pursued if the Child Support Officer has a father or mother who refuses to cooperate. You won’t go to jail if you are trying to pay your child support (actually paying, not just talking about paying). Once the Officer feels that they have wasted enough time trying to get you to pay, they have a warrant issued to bring you before a judge. Sometimes they may just lure you to the court with a subpoena, without mentioning that you’re going to be arrested when you arrive. My Aunt relayed a heart breaking story of having to place a mother in jail who wouldn’t keep a job and pay her child support. Since the split with her previous husband this woman had given birth to another child. Inside the courtroom, the mother was placed in handcuffs and escorted to jail, leaving her one year old behind crying.
Once in jail, you’re stuck there until you get a job. Now I know this sounds crazy, but my Aunt said that you couldn’t leave jail until you could prove that you had a job. Normally family members took care of this obligation for their incarcerated loved ones. The Child Support Officer actually does the legal writing. They have a lawyer at their assistance that really does nothing more than just sign whatever gets placed in front of their face. So your life of freedom is really in the hands of the Child Support Officer.
The squeaky wheel gets the oil
My Aunt said she averaged carrying around 800 ‘cases’ at any one time. Also, she would only make appearances in court once a month. So she would try and accomplish all she could on that day. She made it very obvious, in our conversation, that the custodial parents who were the most assertive with her, took priority over people who compained little. So if your Ex loves the idea of harassing you, expect to hear from the Child Support Enforcement Officer often.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, it’s of no consequence for the female to have you in court as often as she’d like. The judge always makes the man pay the court costs.
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Phil,
If you want to speed things up… in other words… if you want to get some money (or satisfaction) from the childs other parent…. then call and complain to the child support enforcement officer in charge of your case. I’d call them every couple of days. The more they hear from you…. the more they’ll work to reign in this dead-beat and get you satisfied.
Anonymous,
What if the man is a stay at home dad? And his wife works, can he still be arrested for not paying child support if his job is to take care of his current kids?
Yes!! Because you still have a financial obligation to your children with the other woman. The fact that you have ‘new’ children doesn’t negate the financial obligation you have to the previous kids from a previous relationship. Maybe you should have stayed single… and made the money necessary to take care of your children from a ‘previous’ relationship? Why would you create more kids when you can’t even see to the ones you already have?
What if the man is a stay at home dad? And his wife works, can he still be arrested for not paying child support if his job is to take care of his current kids?
I am wondering how long does a child support cases take from the time its filed to the final settlement? The dead beat dad has been located. Its been a while and I haven’t hear anything from the court. Its been more than a year. What should I do? Thank you for your time and cooperation concerning this matter.
What many of the women who have posted angry thoughtless rants on here fail to realize is that THEY HAVE REPRODUCTIVE CHOICE…being obviously deficient both in moral fiber as well as intellect, they either don’t understand that these concepts of “choice” and “responsibility” are connected. The reason it is wrong to force the responsibilities of fatherhood upon an unmarried man shouldn’t have to be carefully spelled out…but in my experience it does. Responsibilities inherently imply choice, otherwise they are slavery. Period. The Supreme Court (in language that often could easily apply to either sex) upheld the right to abortion, not on any right to bodily integrity (look it up, I have) but rather decided the government has no right to force PARENTHOOD upon a woman (or married couple, look it up…unmarried men weren’t considered, because Child Support Enforcement based on paternity didn’t exist) that her “readiness” economic position, and other factors WHICH SHOULD APPLY TO BOTH SEXES were factors no government could overlook and still be a free society. The fact that so many women casually accept the ongoing enslavement of men, and that many others benefit by it doesn’t speak well of the gender. Birth control and abortion “freed” women of the enforced parenthood that used to come with an unwanted pregnancy, and social norms and economic equality have equally made the stigma and much of the hardship of an unwanted, unmarried pregnancy a thing of the past…The women of today shame the feminist thinkers whose shoulders they stand on…but they stand there not to rise higher and become equals of men, but to make of them instruments of the women’s will. And they don’t even realize the destruction it does to their children, the men in their communities, and let’s go ahead and say it, their blackened souls.
To those who claim that the non custodial parents are the ones whom get shafted by the current systems, I will happily tell you that this is not the case, for example my ex and I (we have a daughter) separated over two years ago, I did not ask for child support and let him visit with her when he thought it was convenient, which he rarely choose to act upon deciding he thought there was a better way to spend his time. I honestly didn’t mind, I had a decent enough job and could cover all of her needs on my lonesome. But when he decided that he needed full custody (custodial and legal) of her so he could impress his recent flame, without even trying to inform me or work around whatever issue he had, we ended up going to court. The final judgment was that he could have her every weekend, and pay 25$-40$ every two weeks giving him the option of how much he would willingly pay. After that he immediately cut off contact with her to spend time with his by then pregnant girl friend, saying that he didn’t have time for her or that he couldn’t fit her in to his schedule and when he did she would come home filthy and some times covered in bruises and in one instance with a gash covering her forehead temple to cheek and in another I had to rush her to the hospital, after granting him a much longer time period of visitation, due to her catching an infection (a relative of his had recently been in the hospital and had been carrying MRSA and had come in into with her during that week, I covered her medical bills and he didn’t even offer to pay a dime but personally came to badger me, though when hospital officials called in CPS he was no where to be found ). After several months of not paying child support and (thankfully) rarely using his visitation I asked his permission to move out of state due to economic reasons. He said no the proceeded to tell me he would never let me leave the sate with her, no matter how good the reasons were, telling me that he was going to go to court again and try to “forbid” me from moving. Luckily that didn’t happen, he still has to pay the same amount of child support, although he now has a full week at Christmas, a full week at Easter and a whole month during the summer, in which I’m terrified of what will happen to my daughter. I’m also to notify him of any visits we have to his state, and he can drop by on my doorstep whenever he so chooses to, with as little as 24 hours notice.
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P.S Once it is on your record you haven’t been paying support, or any failures to appear or pay, NO ONE WILL HIRE YOU. My husband lost 4 jobs in 5 years with layoffs, for a child he never wanted, I guess now a days you have to check the womans birth control to make sure they arent mints.
All I know is before I met my husband, he was in first year university, he drove a used BMW, and a gold digging girl thought he was her meal ticket out of poverty. She said she was on birth control, was not (according to her friends later) and got pregnant in the first 2 weeks of dating. They had broken up before she even knew or told him she was pregnant. They did the DNA test, and it was his, and he dropped out of school to make payments. She lives 8 hours away, he rarely sees his daughter, and when he came to Canada to meet me 3 years ago, he was unemployed and volunteering with a family run non profit for disabled peoples. He now has a warrant for failure to appear, he got a letter at his old address to appear in court, he was in Canada, (he got into Canada 3 months before manditory passports) and now they are saying he has to pay 14 thousand in back support or he can never come back to Canada again. Failure to pay is a felony. He has seen his daughter less then 20x in 10 years, she barely knows him the ex makes it IMPOSSIBLE to have a healthy positive relationship, even after we were married she would still come on to him online.
So here we are seperated by country, by a child we barely know (no fault of hers obviously) and by a woman who decided if he wasnt rich and willing to take care of her, she would make his life unbearable. The sad part is, if he was allowed back in Canada, where the economy is BOOMING, he could get a decent job easily, and start paying again. He is in Michigan and applied to Burger King (he will work anywhere no shame) and they wouldnt hire him because of the child support. His licence is revoked, I am covering both rents, foods, meds, etc in both countries. So how does a government think punishing the guy who BARELY knew the girl when they were 20 is going to make it easier for him to pay? I am a strong independent woman, I work 12 hour days running my own company 6 days a week and I cover his life in the USA, my life here in Canada, my student loans etc. It is beyond me how a woman could be so CARELESS to have a child with a man she BARELY knows, and then demand he pay for the next 20 years to have a chance at seeing her or else he loses everything and I mean everything. I know this is heated, I know there are two sides I was a school teacher for 5 years I have seen it all. But please women the only person who really suffers is the child. She or He grows up believing they are not worthy of the parents love, when in actuality he loves his daughter more then anything, but the mom has made it so impossible the dad and daughter are the victims. WOMEN PLEASE MAKE SURE THE GUY WANTS A KID!!! (and not when he is climaxing like during regular hours) I have not seen my husband in a year this Feb because of a 5 min bang 12 years ago. Trapping a man because you think he is wealthy, is going somewhere, has good genes, or whatever reason I have read is PATHETIC. I feel for the women who work hard, have kids with a guy, he cheats, leaves her for someone younger, and now she is stuck with 3 kids working 2 jobs, yes I feel for that woman. But that is NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. These things should be case specific. First question a judge should ask, HOW LONG WERE YOU DATING BEFORE SHE GOT PREGNANT?
so i had two kids with my high school sweet heart together for 4 yrs i have two kids bye him and he ups a leaves me and his kids bc he started a new family with another girl from his job. i have my kids 100% of the time and try everything to make him man up and be in the kids life. he tells me and them that he has a better family and dont need us bc now he dont have to work bc his wife works two jobs and bla bla well when he left i field for child support 652 a month and he owes 17,978 in child support. he pays $1.00 a month and they say bc he trying to pay and no job that they cant do anything so while im busting my ass for my kids he gets to sit on his and do nothing….. must be nice to have everything and not have to worry about how many hours u got to work over to able to buy that one toy ur child wants more then anything for Christmas bc u barely make enough to put food on the table. i have to work two jobs just to make sure all my kids needs are met and i would just love to be able to have a day where i can sit down with the kids and enjoy hearing what they did in school but i work 2-10 at one job and 11- 8 at another and kids are in school from 8-3 i only get weekends with them but a single mom with no help from their dad or state help got to do what we got to do im lucky to have my sister watch my kids while i work for a 100 bucks a week. so it not as bad as all you dead beats make it out to be u have it easy only have to pay cash……..
This is my story. I met a guy online who appeared to be a perfect gentleman. We talked several times and would spend time together a lot throughout the week. I work a late shift and he was hard to go out on dates with the hours I had. Finally, one week he said let’s go out on a date. Prior to this we used condoms and I was allergic to the ones we used. We both decided that we was not seeing any one else at the time and foolishly stopped using condoms. I was on no form of birth control and he mentioned his sperm count being low. Our first date, we spent the entire weekend together and had lots of sex. He would always pull out but he did not that weekend. Well a month later I found out that I was pregnant. I contacted him about it and he blew up. He told me to not contact him until I confirm my pregnancy with a doctor. In the beginning of our relationship, he mentioned not ever wanting any more kids but he also stated that if he got with the right woman he would could giving her a child if she did not have any. He knew I wanted kids and he know I had previously had two miscarriages and a stillbirth in my prior marriage. He wanted an abortion but I did not. I kept my child and he got mad and we did not speak or see each other for several months until I was 10 months. I call and informed him of the sex of our child. Too make a long story short, after the birth of our son, he was engaged and in a relationship with several other women. That explains one reason why he wanted an abortion. This man proclaim to be single but had relations with other women while with me. I told him before the baby was born to let us work out a financial plan because I did not want to file child support. I want he to pay have of our son’s expenses. I would have worked with him on any level. He said he could not pay half. I tried several more times to work with him and then he started giving me only $200 a month. Then he stopped doing that after one day while staying over night at his house, his fiance shows up and sees me at his house. She was unaware of me and the fact he had a child. He decides to kick me and his child out of the house. I filed for child support 2 weeks after my son was born because he refused to come sign the birth certificate and pay me any type of money. He did not know I had filed. I filed in interest of my child. This man has a really good job. Now that he is aware that child support has been filed now he wants to work something out and now has gotten a lawyer. He wants me to get a lawyer so we can draw up a contract of how much he should pay. I told him I can not afford a lawyer. He said he does not want to deal with the court system and he does not want this to go on his credit report. I am sticking with child support because he had his chance and now it is too late.
Child support enforcement officers are really a joke in NC. My enforcement officer (or who ever in the world figured it up) figured me at making 3 times more than what I actually do! Seriously I have the “worksheet” more like legal fraud sheet. that clearly stated fill in the actual pay i was recieving. and well they did, and they told me “were going to leave of the low weeks, I’m going to add it all up and divide it by three. I was like hey it clearly tell’s you to divide it by 4 to get weekly pay! she said that she can do what ever she wants that if she wanted to she would make me pay child support on what i was making 4 years ago. I filed for a motion for reduction, and the case is so far away, that I will most likely be in jail before the hearing get’s here. and to top all that of I lost my job over medical reason’s. Can barely walk, i’ve had my back broken in 2 places a few year’s ago. I’m six weeks behind, and I owe $845.00 for 2 kids.
Well now, where do i begin! My ex has custody as of the moment, i lost most of my work and am now at the peril of losing my home and my surroundings, i have been redered to pay $1000 a month to my daughter, now i had cutody of her, my had abandoned us, got caugt up in drugs/ sex whatever, was found at her moms house by EMT’s fro atempted suicide , not once but four times, was ordered a blood test and found crack, meth, marajuana,opiates, cocaine and heroin…..now she is a nurse mind you!!!!!. so all the time she was stealing from the hospital as well diloted oxycotin, etc etc….now we go to court and i get ordered custody and the court orders an ad lidem(person whom decides what parent is best to care for child) like this should be a problem, now she not only investigates but now issus my ex wife custody!!!! Im like WTF!!!!!!!! so now a month later i get a call staing she is pregnant with twins (while we were still married) and of course not mine! so she spits out the twins and the guy aparently was someone she met while in the “westwood” a lock down facilty that she had been too mutlple times for suicidal thoughts and attempts. so now she heads off to work at the freaking hospital! and left the twins with thier father(now mind you he had called me multipe tims stating he was going to kill me and this is all my fault, i have the police reports) he drives through the local town and gets pulled over for drunk driving with these 2 poor month old babies in the car! so a month later the dude up a nd kils him self on top it all! i fight daily to get my daughter out of there,so now she moves this dude into her house like 4 months later and now are currently married after 2 yrs, oh how the system sucks ,a ndfor al you females whom think all dad are deadbeats go f yourself, my daughter is my life, she tells me all the time she doesnt want to be in that home qwith them she wants to live with me, but she as no say in court till she is 10-13 yrs of age! F this system! i say et the stronger and more responsible take care of thier kids and keep the money-eyed f-ups away including the courts, they are just all about the money too! F em all! Im gonna kee pfighting till she is out and we will move away!
Sincerly,
The one whom got Screwed!
Child support is B.S.!!! I can’t get it for my daughter who I have custody of because her moms made a career of being on welfare. But I sure have to pay it for the daughter I didn’t want when I was 17!!but because her mom wanted a baby I’m stuck… She got married and change the kids last name(against my will..unless he adopted her)…still paying… B.S.!!! I don’t think that child support is fare to men… I work very hard to support my family of 4 and that money they take from me for a kid I haven’t seen in 6-7 years doesn’t have my last name no more. I could sure use to get my bills paid and keep shoes on there feet… I think the government should stay out of peoples business especially when they are so 1(hers) sided!!!!! I think they should ask the father at least if he wanted the kid if not they should give the kid up for adoption…unless the mother/father wants full responsibility. To you women who make your baby daddy life miserable…. EAT POOP and grows the F-up. You had a choice I’m sure he wasn’t begging you for a kid especially if you weren’t married.You made the choice live with it..
ok Barry i have a question for ya.. I only owe my ex something like $525 but the courts want to throw me in jail if i don’t have everything paid off by yesterday. i work at Fed ex and during the summer the work wasn’t that great But now that the holidays are around my hours have doubled. Well I’ll just to cut to the chase. Can the judge legally put me in jail for not paying everything on the court ordered date? because I’m still working and paying on my CS debt. I just need a few more weeks to get everything paid off in full. Should i say that i only get 25 to 30 bucks a week because they’re taking 60 to 70 a week from me? and on top of that i have to give up what little money i have and give it right to my ex who hasn’t paid a dime when my kid has been here with me since the 1st year she was born? My ex makes absolutely no effort to see or even speak to her but yet I’m the one that’s getting financially raped over what i owe.. If i get put in jail, I will lose my job and won’t be able to pay anything.. How is that fair and what can I do to keep myself working and out of jail? Oh i should add that I don’t have custody of her at this time. I gave custody to my mother because i didn’t have a job at the time and it was just the smart choice because i knew she would be well taken care of. so i own my ex AND my mother CS but they’re only going after me for the $525.. I just don’t see how it’s legal or constitutional that i be put in jail and lose my job when i’m working to pay off what i owe. That’s what’s got me so angry..
I hear alot of guys on here say that the women getting the child support don’t allow the father to see the kids. That is wrong. I have 2 beautiful boys with my exhusband. We both live in seperate states. I am married again, and have one other child with my current husband. My kids have been in the state he lives in every summer according to our divorce decree. He made attempts maybe twice to see his kids at my parents house when he had a full summer. He don’t complain about paying CS, but heres the thing, since our 2 kids and I live in another state, he uses the excuse we are in one state when he is in the other, so why does he have to pay child support when he dont see them. For one I take my kids to his state every summer or send them to his state every summer, each summer I have heard from him himself and my parents and they say out of the whole summer he only tried a couple times to see them. Okay so heres what I’m wondering, why would a man bitch about paying CS cause he “don’t get to see his kids cause there in another state” yet when he is given the opportunity, he comes up with excuses for not seeing them. Now you dads who claim all women dont let the men see the kids, how is it I let him see them never want to keep the kids from him, but he don’t take the chances he has to see them. So in conclusion, not every woman is like that. Someone please explain this to me, cause the way I see it if you dont take the chance to see them than thats your fault.
The sad thing is ,when deadbeats go start a relationship shop with someone an then get them pregnant and after making a life commitment of making a incident child they think the grass is greener somewhere else in my case does that an beats on me while I was pregnant.then when I leave him he don’t want to see her little lone pay childsupport to his child,so absolutly if some one makes the decision to make a life they better be willing to support that life for 18 yrs!
People complain that social security does not provide enough ‘support’ for old people to live on and then say that children have an obligation to care for their parents in old age. No child gets thrown in jail because they quit their job to avoid SS wage garnishments totaling 15.3% of their potential wage. With social security in the red, it will require 20-30% garnishment to maintain the ‘expected support levels’.
Remove social security and make supporting your parents voluntary, and all of a sudden people everywhere have significant self-interest-based motivation for gaining the favor of the younger generation. Fathers and mothers of modest means will DEPEND upon their children in their old age and therefore have motivation to CARE for their children by what ever means they are able now.
Forced payments build hatred, no child wants their dad thrown in jail as they care about *him* and not his money. Many kids would gladly pay all of their ‘support money’ to get their dad out of jail. When this is factored in, it is clear that it is the mothers who are looking to subsidize their standard of living by shifting the expenses that come with raising kids onto the dad.
If a mother wants to throw a dad in jail, let her pay to house, feed, and clothe him in jail. Why should the rest of society pay over $3,000 / month (cost of jail) to punish a guy for failing to pay $500 / month? It does not make economic sense!
Imagine two people running a company, they take out a loan to finance the factory and both sign the loan.
The parties split up, the court orders the assets to partner A and the liabilities to partner B.
The the loan requires a payment of $1000 / month and will be paid off in 18 years.
However, partner B use to bring in $10,000 / month for the company allowing the company to pay its loan, grow and expand. The judge orders that not only is the partner liable for the loan, but also to maintain the same level of investment into the company without any right to the profits. Partner A is put in charge of day-to-day operations and gets to decide how to invest (or squander) that money.
Now factor in that partner B was forced out by partner A….
And that is an analogy for how our court system works.
Both parents have a right to 50% custody. Their obligation to support their children is tied to that right to 50% custody. If you forcfully remove custody but leave the obligation it is the blatant theft of both the kids and money on the part of the ‘custodial’ parent.
As a married couple you have the right to give your kids up for adoption.
The only time a support order is justified is when both parents do not want custody. In this even, the kid should be given up for adoption to someone who does want custody.
The problem is that a woman can leave a man (because the grass is greener don’t you know), and all of a sudden the man is denied his right to see his kids, is forced to pay more to support for the ‘privilege’, and can be thrown in jail for resisting such an outrage!
Two people start a business, they both sign the loan documents required to buy the factory. Later these business partners split ways and the court orders one person to ‘run the company’ and the other to ‘pay the loan’. The individual running the company gets to ‘keep the profits’. This is clearly not just…
Best interest of the kids??? That can be used to justify steeling the kids from any parent anywhere.
The flip side to child support is social security. First you force dads to pay so much in support that they cannot save for retirement (while the kids and custodial mother enjoy a higher the necessary standard of living), then you force the kids to support the dad in old age. Once again instead of allowing the kids to simply house and feed their dad in their own home (a small burden), the kids are forced to finance a independent lifestyle for the dad (living above his means).
Eliminate all transfer payments, enforce contracts, support parental rights, and keep government out of our families!
(editor’s note – I deleted your first comment for foul language and have permitted this one after editing your choice of words – to post on this site you need to keep the language clean – Thanks! – Barry)
its sad pple on ssi dont gotta pay childsupport but single.moms gotta suffer and get nothing for their children but yet woman on ssi can stay on welfare wut bout the woman who have kidswit the fathers who collect they get sh** im single mom who has it tuff finding work can get no help in this state but other pple can pple definatly aint treated equal mi kids fathers a deadbeat on ssi and it seems like he gets the good deals in court dosent gotta pay but yet we can get joint custody I cant leave this f** up state without his permission so for the woman who do get support and say they got it bad look at moms like me who have it alot worse im sry to say it men who dnt support thea kids financially dont deserve to see their kids im glad he dosent takes his son and mi son dont kno him he kno mi bf as his father his real dad is just a sperm doner I like to keep it tht way better for mi son not to kno him pple can call me a bi*** idc see wut im goin threw then judge me
I have a child by a man who will not pay unless his lincense is revoked and i am married to a man who is on childsupport and pay childsupport faithfully and he never see the child the mother don’t want him around and the childsupport will not tell him how to contact her what is he suppose to do in contacting the child……
Anyone who has the nerve to complain about paying child support, or worse yet refuses to pay it, should be ashamed! These punishments are not enough. They should make you try to live on the pittance that you are being asked to pay to support YOUR CHILDREN. Maybe then you’d understand what pathetic pieces of garbage you really are.
There are good and bad folks that have children. Not all women and men are alike. Out of all my friends that are single parents I am the only one who has to pursue my x in family court. Bloody hell. I don’t think the system is entirely unfair, but they do the minimum to help out custodial parents which kinda sucks. After my x and i split up, I gave him a fair chance of a year to do the right thing, cause who wants to waste time in court. As soon as I got a job, which is one of the reasons of us splitting, far too possessive but we live in NYC and for 2 parents that are not lawyers, doctors is unheard of. not to be working. He quit his job, wtf anyways w the stupid economy i was making $14 w no college education, pretty decent and i asked him to watch his kids, we have twins together, you love them, you have visitation your unemployed ..makes sense..then we don’t have to split daycare and I wasn’t going to push for child support. Did he think that was reasonable, no. He’s been unemployed now for 2.5 years and recently got a job. I recently got laid off and was lucky to get unemployment, but I’m surviving the same, minus child care and spending time with my kids. meanwhile while he was unemployed, he was working off the books (I can hire a detective, I don’t have money for that, to report him to the courts), He lives with his folks, they pay his cell, car insurance and put a roof over his head. I pay $1000 for a 1 bedroom and sleep on the couch. Also he has so many gfs since us, which I don’t care..I don’t have time working and taking care of my kids to think about myself..sucks. lol. But they have the nerve to threaten me outside my apt, texting, etc and the cops don’t do nothing and I yet I don’t know who these stupid bit*hes are. meanwhile they have kids but there x’s are the ones that support their kids. wtf!…meanwhile I now know we will be in and out of family court for life. I would just like to know what the nyc amount owed before he gets license suspended or jail time cause he deserves it. he even had the nerve last year to report the 2 kids on his tax return when they live me, unbelievable that was a big process with the IRS, does court take that in to effect of what a douche he is, even my x’s own lawyer knows I’m fair, he screamed on my x about what a dumbass he was for not watching his kids when i was working and his tab wouldn’t have escalated so much. While I was unemployed i went back to school to better myself. I’m trying here folks….I finally have the **** in child support enforcement after 2 years, but still have to get the due childcare on the tab =that’s $1200, and nursery which is cheaper than daycare so i can go back into the work field. OMFG court helps a bit but not much, god forbid i harass him like him and his stupid gf’s and I’m the one who is at risk for losing my kids on bad behavior . another example he was watching my kids on his visits and at the time, they were 1..one got burned that when I took them to the hospital they called child services on my ass, and they investigated and when they found out his mom worked for the board of education, they dropped the case and didn’t even give him supervised visits. I swear to god.
Hi my names chris and i wanted to put my input in this……i recentley just had a dna on my son who is now 9 months….after fighting with the dhhr for 7 months to do the appointment and it took 2 months to come back…courts are so slow where i live…..i wanted the dna cuz she cheated on me and her bf that she is with right now says hes my sons dad…i wasnt allowed to be at the appointments or even his birth even tho i wanted to be…i was the man about it with going to child support and trying to get the dna…the woman asked me if i was sure cuz if he was mine i had to pay child support…i told her thats right and i expect it its part of my responsibility…..she looked at me shocked and said she was proud cuz i was the only guy thats ever said that in awhile…sadly she said most guys walk out as soon as she mentioned child support cuz their not mature enough to take responsibility….anyhow i go to court for child support in a few weeks which im happy about cuz my baby momma is kinda money hungry…shes tried to get me to pay her cell phone bill and everything else that has nothing to do with him….i have been buying him diapers clothes and everthing this whole time but she claims im not doing anything…..but good thing about it is i have all the receipts for everything i bought besides giving her money…..but for the past 4 months shes been keeping me away cuz her bfs trying to take my place..calls himself daddy and threatens me if i go around my son..she allows it but hey im doing what any real father would do im fighting for my rights…cuz a fathers heart doesnt give…any real father would fight the world by himself for his child….ill let ya know how everything goes……..MEN STRAIGHTEN UP cuz it takes a boy to make a baby but a man to raise one