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Today a reader asked me how she should go about beginning the debt settlement process with collection agencies and creditors she’s avoided for three years. I thought it would be a good idea to give her a short ‘duty’ list of how to handle talking with bill collectors. Collection agencies thrive on debtors who don’t know their rights, don’t know the law, and therefore can easily be intimidated. Remember, the bill collector just wants some money, and if possible, they’ll do whatever they can to grasp that money today! Most bill collectors work on commission and know how to handle different types of debtors. You must understand up front that these collectors have a career on the phone talking about debt settlement and you do not. Therefore you must arm yourself with knowledge before beginning the arduous task of negotiation. Here’s my response to June on how to proceed with her debt settlement issues.

**Disclaimer – Debtprison.net does not administer legal or financial advice. The contents of this website are my opinions on collection agencies and how to deal with them. Nothing on this website should be interpreted as legal advice or council. No opinions on this website should be used to replace the advice of your financial advisor or your legal council.

Remember to check out all my articles on collection agencies.

Hey June,

First a reminder that this is not legal advice but is my opinion on how I would handle this situation.

First you need to pull your credit report and look at it. Go to http://annualcreditreport.com and review your credit report since the collection agencies may be listed there. Next you need to create a list of your debts, how much the balances are, and who owns them. You must do this before you can make any settlement offer.

Once you know how much your balances are on each account, and who owns the account, then you can request validation of the debt. You can answer the phone, but you must be careful. You must know your rights and what you can afford to pay.

After reviewing my credit report I would start answering my phone… this is how I would do it.

1. Have paper and pencil sitting next to the phone.

2. Always assume the collection agency doesn’t have the legal right to collect on the debt.

3. Admit no knowledge of the debt.

4. Request validation of the debt over the telephone.

5. If they don’t know your address then hang up…. ignore them for now.

6. Wait on their validation letter, if they don’t validate, or refuse to validate, then tell them to call back when they are ready to mail you a validation letter.

7. Keep an accurate log of who you talked with, the name and address of the collection agency, date and times of the call, and the name of the supervisor on duty. To understand why this is important read Collection Agencies and Their Lies.

8. Once the collection agency validates the debt, if it looks correct you can begin to negotiate with them.

9. You can also opt to request a copy of the original contract (signed by you) that indicates you ever entered into any such contract with the original creditor. At the end of the day this is about contract law. Requesting the collection agency to produce the original contract that you signed is a reasonable request and your local judge will likely agree.

10. Since its been three years since you made any payment I’d start out by offering 20% of what they claim you owe, since what they claim you owe is heavily bloated with late fees and interest, and they only paid a few cents on the dollar for the debt.

11. I’d stick with whatever I could pay and nothing more.

12. Don’t make any promises you cannot keep.

13. Pay in lump sum if possible and get a letter from them in advance stating that this payment 100% satisfies your obligation to this debt and is considered ‘paid in full’ and will not be transferred or sold to another collection agency nor will they attempt to collect on the remainder of the debt. The devil is in the details and you can smother them with the details.

Remember, they are counting on you not knowing your rights!!! They will lie to you and intimidate you. If you sense this is happening just hang up and do some research, call a lawyer, or come back here and talk to me!

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A Debt Prison reader contacted me two months ago in regards to the desperate financial crisis she was facing in the UAE with outstanding debt. She began calling her creditors daily to convince them that negotiation was in their best interest as well as hers. With persistence and daily phone calls she convinced the creditors that they must agree to a workable payment plan. For Iara, the key to success against the UAE collectors was to keep the lines of communication open and contact them daily until a favorable solution is gained. The same can often be said about collectors here in the U.S..

**Disclaimer – Debtprison.net does not administer legal or financial advice. The contents of this website are my opinions on collection agencies and how to deal with them. Nothing on this website should be interpreted as legal advice or council. No opinions on this website should be used to replace the advice of your financial advisor or your legal council.

Without the valuable real-life experiences of my readers this blog would not serve as a reliable source of information for debtors. My thanks to each and every one who has taken the time to share their experiences with collection agencies! Here’s the comment Iara posted about winning against her debtors in the UAE. 

Dear Barry,

You asked me to come back to you, so I came back to tell you what happened to me after that disastrous affairs with credit cards in UAE. I mentioned to you how helpless I felt, and I wanted to run for my life and go back to Philippines, my home country. Well, the end was quite the opposite. “FIGHT OR FLIGHT”, I’ve chosen to fight. I am not a criminal to run away.

I started my personal struggle by reading your articles, and it really inspired me, and it taught me the things I need to know: the lies & intimidation of the collections department and how to deal with it. It hasn’t been an easy journey. I decided to tackle my Royal Bank of Scotland credit card first because it was smaller & easier to kill (only AED 6600). I spent almost two months calling them every single day. I’ve gotten to know all the people working there in Collections Department, from the several agents to the Team Leader and then finally the overall Manager.

I was turned down many times or was being referred to various, different people. They kept on telling me that someone will call me back, but nobody ever did. But I never gave up, I called the customer service and I asked for their help. I told them how unhelpful the agents of Collection Department were and if they could just give me the Manager’s number and name. Surprisingly, I got the information, and I talked to the Manager and recounted to him that I’m willing to pay but nobody’s helping me. I told him that I am planning to leave the country for good, and if nobody will arrange my account, I will just leave without paying it. After 30 minutes somebody called me back, they told me to pay the AED 1640.00 and for the succeeding 5 months, I will pay only AED 1000, INTEREST FROZEN (CREDIT CARD SETTLEMENT).

My other credit card started calling me, but I followed your advice. I didn’t talk to them, they would just make me depressed, and there was nothing I could do, having no money to pay the AED 5000 they wanted. So I just dropped AED 200 or AED 500 monthly to that said bank, and I was continuously charged the OVER LIMIT FEE & LATE PAYMENT FEE & ALL THE INTEREST (which is shockingly more than AED 850 per month)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Weeks crept on. Then few days ago, I received an email from FGB offering me an Easy Payment Plan that has no other fees but only the 1% per month (so that’s only 12% per annum), and payable for 36 months . . . I was really happy when I received it. Imagine, I am charged more than AED 800 per month for the penalties and interest alone, but with this plan, I am actually paying only AED 238 interest per month with my outstanding divided to 36 months.

I signed the offer, and now I cannot imagine the relief I feel for having a debt-free life. ALMOST.

I hope that my story will serve as an inspiration to those desperate souls out there.

6 months ago, I thought about ending my life because of debt.

Now, I am sooo good. I lost a lot of money, but I earned an experience and I learned a lesson.

Grateful,

iara